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  • meridiani.planum
    03-03 06:13 PM
    Consider this:
    Even though IV has 25000 "registered" members. There are only 400-500 visitors. The same people visit the site often. The number of visitors dramatically increase, if there are newsworthy events that affects most of the people.
    So the sample size is NOT 25K but around 500, based on the daily visits.

    This of course is not a whole lot but Idea is not to be statistically correct but to feed newsworthy information to the Media, and here are the facts.
    a) 1 MM people in the line for EB green card
    b) All of them highly skilled with at least bachelors
    c) Average income 75K +
    d) Average family size: Slightly more than 2 .
    e) Life Dream : The American Dream
    f) Bottleneck to the life dream : The long ,excruciating backlogs.

    thats even worse. you are taking a poll of 500 people (*IF* you get that many respondents to this poll, my feeling is you wont cross 250) and expanding that to 1 million people in line for EB greencard.

    This is not extrapolation, its a joke.

    For the sake of the immigrant community, please dont drag CNN to Immigrationvoice.org to look at a poll that 200 people took of which 50 claim they would buy a house if they got a GC tomorrow. We all lose credibility if we make such statements.





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  • p_kumar
    03-03 12:55 PM
    This thread is the extension of this thread:
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=17653

    Objective of this poll:
    a) To assess if the idea has any strength
    b) Invite media attention to the issue
    c) Develop a task force to float this idea around.

    Folks, even if 10% of us ended up buying a house, that is 100,000 more buyers in the market.
    My mortgage application was rejected on the grounds that my EAD is valid for only one year, even though my credit history, down payment, income stability are upto the mark.

    ok





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  • kishcaro
    07-13 01:21 PM
    This is just a stunt. WHy did she wait allthese days to write this letter. Now when everything falls in place by others efforts, she wants people to think it is because her effort all these things are happening. I hate murthy or your murfhy.

    First of all what is in place????

    What do u know about murthy? She is a founder of a reputed immigration Law firm and she needs to do think before she speaks. Maybe she took all the time in doing the ground work which she had mentioned in her letter. Think in a positive way. Sending bunch of flowers and getting the media attention does not solve the problem. There should be some one who can speak directly to the concerned persons and that is what sheela murthy is doing. Let her make her efforts.

    Sorry this is not to offend any one, just my view.





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  • vagish
    04-04 03:57 PM
    If you want a good discussion on a topic stop generalizing things and do not use rants like racist engineers etc. When you make an assumption please be clear about. You have assumed most people work for consulting companies and most people are frustrated with it. Not so. I don't work for them and I am not frustrated with them. My only concern with them is they are exploiting the system to their advantage and at my cost. This has two fold affect not only the take cut from your salary but also put a bad name to H1B visa program in general. Whoever wrote the bill or whatever are the consequences there is definitely some good things in that bill. Let me list out how some provisions are good:

    1. If you are employable in US and you have the skills you will get the job with or without these middlemen. They come into picture only because they can start a corporation and then start the exploitation game. If a bill is taking these guys out what's wrong with it ? This will allow genuine corporations to hire the right candidates.

    2. Putting 30 days of ad. to hire US citizens first ? What's wrong with it ? If their skills are really outdated and you are the best and the brightest you will get the job.

    If you need more evidence of why H1B program needs reform look no further than H1B cap used up on first day. This has put good undue hard ship for good candidates while Infosys/Wipro etc will once again take the lion's share of H1B numbers. Why do you want them to win at your cost ? Stop calling people affected by this mess as "Racist Engineers". Try to put yourself in their shoes and some of these practices are affecting both the H1B visa holders (with indentured servitude) and citizens with wage depression. No body wins in the end but the people who are exploiting the system.

    completely agree.



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  • somegchuh
    12-27 03:28 PM
    I think the bottomline is not having a GC causes you so much general grief in life that even if you were in a perfect job on H1 and your spouse had a perfect job on H1, you would still want GC just to circumvent these issues with transit and financial institutions.

    I know every time my wife or I fly anywhere, we are concerned about transit visas. Anytime you try to open an account, you are concerned. Different state DMV's act differently. Heck, even people in same DMV office in same city interpret rules differently when it comes to H1. I know ppl who have had trouble in CA getting a license because their H1 extension pending and I know ppl whose licenses were mailed to them with validity for another 5 years!





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  • retrohatao
    02-13 12:25 PM
    I think I am bit surprised to see not even a single posting as a reply. Believe it or not its huge problem than you can even imagine.
    :rolleyes:



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  • rajkr
    06-11 01:21 PM
    Dude, we are not suggesting or even thinking that we should move away from main agenda, thats there and thats where IV advocacy days aimed at. Its part of the game. You cant sail the sea without winning over turbulences. these are not if and if nots.

    Other If's you are trying to post are not in the works, if they are then its same path. You cant turn a blind eye to something that is already happening.

    If you really believe that this bogus bill will become a Law, then also see the real picture, that is why I posted the other Ifs.

    This Bill is titled as "Employ America Act". By having the GC, you are not an American. If you do not know the rule here it is, GC is a "Privilege", and it is not a "Right". So if this Bill passes all these people with alerady having GC will also need to pack their Bags and Go. That is the reality, dude.

    So again and again do not fall over it. If you respond to this Bill, and Vote "No" against it, you are trying to send wrong messages to the originators of the bill, that we are scared. Why you guys are making everyone scared, when there is nothing to be scared about.





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  • ajay
    04-13 10:12 AM
    A very useful piece of information has been brought to our attention by shiankuraaf.
    Thank you very much!

    http://www.dhs.gov/ximgtn/statistics/publications/LPR08.shtm

    Table 6 Persons Obtaining Legal Permanent Resident Status by Type and Major Class of Admission: Fiscal Years 1999 to 2008

    http://www.dhs.gov/ximgtn/statistics/publications/YrBk04Im.shtm
    Table 4 Immigrants admitted by type and selected class of admission: fiscal years 1986-2004

    Employment-based preferences (Total Number)

    Year QUOTA ISSUED Unused/Excessively used
    1986 140000 56617 83383
    1987 140000 57519 82481
    1988 140000 58727 81273
    1989 140000 57741 82259
    1990 140000 58192 81808
    1991 140000 59525 80475
    1992 140000 116198 23802
    1993 140000 147012 -7012
    1994 140000 123291 16709
    1995 140000 85336 54664
    1996 140000 117499 22501
    1997 140000 90607 49393
    1998 140000 77517 62483
    1999 140000 56678 83322
    2000 140000 106642 33358
    2001 140000 178702 -38702
    2002 140000 173814 -33814
    2003 140000 81727 58273
    2004 140000 155330 -15330
    2005 140000 246877 -106877
    2006 140000 159081 -19081
    2007 140000 162176 -22176
    2008 140000 166511 -26511

    Sum total of the differences from 1986 to 2008: 626,681. Vow!!!

    So when looked between the period of 1986 and 2008,
    there were a total of 626,681 un-used visa numbers that can be re-captured.

    This is based on the BIG assumption that the yearly quota for EB categories is 140,000 from 1986 to 2008.
    Does anybody know how to verify this important assumption online --a link to a gov website perhaps?

    It would be good to verify when the law specifying 140,000 visa numbers per year was passed and
    what were the criteria for visa number usage prior to the existence of the law.
    It is clearly a well prepared format and nobody has brought this kind of helpful information to our group. We would need people like you and I am sure I will also support this if we are aggressively pursuing it. But again as somebody here said in this discussion that we should be careful about the seriousness of the situation being counted by the lawmakers.
    Kudos to you.



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  • nojoke
    03-01 03:57 AM
    What a lovely change. Every time Obama and his press Secy opens their mouth, markets dive into red. In this country Main Street and Wall Street are in bed with each other :-)
    Obama with his sense-less economic policies, trying to separate Main Street from Wall street. Government needs to seriously lure the investors to the market , cut capital gains and taxes, take off protectionist hats and recover the economy. Then Obama can go with his socialist/populist agenda but certainly this is not the right time.:D

    Stop watching faux news.
    Bush has done tax cuts to the investor class and look where it has taken this country.





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  • acecupid
    07-03 12:36 PM
    Would you agree that wives and kids should not be included in the EB GC quota?

    If you read my earlier response, you would not be asking me this question. Just to repeat myself, I completely agree with you that wives and kids should not be included to the EB GC quota!



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  • alterego
    09-17 10:37 PM
    This is no doubt a bad time for the US economy. However the world is not going to collapse. We will nearly certainly see a recession. Outside chance of a depression. The credit markets are frozen, confidence has been shaken, housing is searching for a bottom, unemployment has ticked up a percentage point so far, and the stock market is down about 20%.

    However, put that in the context of the great depression in the late 20s and into the early 30s. 25% unemployment, Widespread bank failures with no FDIC insurance, Many companies collapsed and people lost their life savings just by keeping it in the bank, Stock markets down by nearly 90%, people died of starvation! Yeah those things happened in this country. In fact, many observers attribute that experience for the extremely frugal nature of the elderly in this country, the so called great generation. Perhaps this will change current US attitudes away from consumption and toward savings. Perhaps entitlement reform will be fast tracked. We shall see.

    Things are bad. Structural changes are needed. The war must be ended and the resources redirected. Americans also need to adjust to the new realities in a globalizing world some of which are not particularly appealing.
    However also remember, the US has many geo-political advantages, control of a massive amount of natural resources, still the best R&D, an advanced industrial base, well developed infrastructure, and despite the current wall street mess no currency seems imminently capable of replacing the US dollar as the global reserve currency (hence giving the Federal reserve the enormous power of the printing press). Note that not a single currency has appreciated more than 5% viz a vie during this crisis. In fact Gold has outperformed all! Quite simply noone believes another economy is ready at this time.

    Hopefully the job market will not get too messy. The market will bottom in the next 6 months or so, once their is a complete clean out of the balance sheets. We are probably past the half way point in this. Exactly when it ends noone knows however.

    If you have savings consider putting it in blue chip consumer staples, when you feel there is a bottom in stocks. Diversify internationally, Consider letting your wife go on a gold buying binge............:).

    Quit worrying, this too shall pass. This downturn will be longer than recent ones however. Might be measured in terms of a few years rather than months.





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  • ak27
    01-03 11:35 AM
    Hello Everyone,
    Wish all of you very happy new year. So far, we have only six members on group. If I may have missed anyone, please send me an email ajay1857@gmail.com.

    NJ chapter must be largest... Let us make it..

    Thank you..



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  • reddymjm
    04-23 06:34 PM
    for sharing the news





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  • perm2gc
    01-05 02:59 AM
    An idea!!
    Lets just put our post on codeguru.com , expertsexchange.com etc etc....
    I'm pretty sure lot of techies visit there from all kind of nationalities.....
    Good Idea..Can you post in those websites and post the details here.
    Thank You



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  • [uber]
    03-11 10:39 PM
    when is the poll gonna be set up?





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  • Kodi
    05-27 11:23 AM
    This happened to me in 2006, we went on a road trip from NY to Texas and wanted to visit the mexican border. On our way back they were stopping every vehical. We were on H1 visa at the time and he only checked our IDs and let us go. He was quite nice. I guess they were only looking for mexicans, we said we're from New York and our vehical plates said NY and he didn't ask any other questions.

    On the other hand, I know some people who over stayed and they fly within US all the time. They don't have ID but they show their passport but was never asked for visa status. Weired I guess. They don't even check the visa in the passport.



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  • tinamatthew
    07-24 01:02 PM
    There is no doubt the employer letter is required.
    The only question is:
    1) is it safer to wait for RN and then submit this letter as evidence quoting the A# assigned, I think that would be wise for a concurrenly filed application. My lawyer said that if its concurrently filed, the letter accompanying the i-140 is sufficient and 2 letters are not required. But if the i-485 is on it own then an employment letter must accompany the form. OR
    2) is it a better idea to submit a new I-485 rightaway along with the letter, What is reasoning behind this. Are you expecting a rejection? Why not wait for the RN and then send in the letter? Have you spoken to your lawyer?OR
    3) should such people just wait hoping they will receive an RFE (I don't like this one at all) whenever the case is opened? For initial evidence items I believed that it would be automatically rejected if not included, HOWEVER, with the new press release from USCIS on July 23, if i-485s WITHOUT medical reports will be accepted, then what is an employment letter?

    This is my 2c, but pls confirm with lawyer :)





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  • mallu
    04-23 08:51 PM
    All,

    Opened my email this morning to see the card production ordered email (time stamp in my inbox reads 2:15 am PST 4/23/08); the approval date was 4/23/08.

    Been in meetings all day so not even a chance to call anyone about it.

    Yay!

    Good luck to all my fellow sufferers!

    Googler

    Keep on waiting.





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  • RNGC
    02-19 01:42 PM
    Read this carefully before you comment here:
    "fingerprints for information relating to criminal, national security, or other law enforcement actions that would render the alien ineligible for adjustment of status under this section".

    This is just to verify if the guys is in database for any criminal activity. ofcourse they will not give an illegal guy a GC if they have his record in database for criminal activity in US. This is just a formal requirement to keep illegal law brokers out because there are thousands illegals who came here from southern border and have committed crimes. There are some even in the America's Top 10 Wanted list. My uncles(came illegally here) went through all criminal checks by FBI for breaking any law,when Reagan gave amnesty for >5 years. Same criminal checks were done on illegals when Clinton helped legalalization of illegals. Fingerprints, etc are just for other criminal history check not to check if the person crossed the border illegally, ofcouse he did and broke the law: that's the whole point for him being illegal.

    In fact >5year rule has been a standard to give immigration to illegals as is clear by Reagan amnesty. If 5 year rule is not for illegals, then what do you think is there in this bill for 11 million illegals. Itn't that logical. Infact main purpose of this bill is to fix illegal immigrants not legals. If you think >5 years rule is just for legals, you need to read history books, read text carefully and be more logical: not blinded by desire to get your own GC if you are here >5years.

    Either way: I never said we should oppose the 5 year requirement. I just said that rules for "Legal <5 years" should be easier than rules for "illegal>5" years and please don't propagate false rumors here that this bill is just for legals in a blind desire for your own GC.


    So what if illegals are also covered in this! Illegals are kind of people suffering from their employers because they don't have any paperwork! We, are slightly better, we have paper work and still suffer at the hands of our employers, so we know their plight...So, I would say illegals also have to be considered. I DO NOT SUPPORT ILLEGALS. But they are human beings too and are living in the dark.....

    My take on ilegals is:
    1. Build a huge prison and put all of them in there and feed them rest of their life.
    OR
    2. Arrest all of them and deport them their home country
    IF 1 or 2 is not possible, better give them green card as long as they have not committed any crime and legalize them so no one takes advantage of them...we have had one round of slavery in this country and its consequence is still felt, lets not have another round of slavery with illegals.





    truthinspector
    04-08 07:10 AM
    I don't understand the IO calling Client part. What if (like most of us do) the person was traveling on a weekend? Is the client supposed to be on call for the IO?Besides, even if it is so, answering NO to that question implies fraud on behalf of the Client too.


    I know a person who was sent back; IO called the end client to verify his employment and asked if they could hire american worker instead, when the employer said they could, IO sent him back. I think they are only going after H1's working for smaller consulting companies.

    You may write it off as a rumor, so be it, but IV needs to step in and take necessary action.





    ajay
    04-13 10:12 AM
    A very useful piece of information has been brought to our attention by shiankuraaf.
    Thank you very much!

    http://www.dhs.gov/ximgtn/statistics/publications/LPR08.shtm

    Table 6 Persons Obtaining Legal Permanent Resident Status by Type and Major Class of Admission: Fiscal Years 1999 to 2008

    http://www.dhs.gov/ximgtn/statistics/publications/YrBk04Im.shtm
    Table 4 Immigrants admitted by type and selected class of admission: fiscal years 1986-2004

    Employment-based preferences (Total Number)

    Year QUOTA ISSUED Unused/Excessively used
    1986 140000 56617 83383
    1987 140000 57519 82481
    1988 140000 58727 81273
    1989 140000 57741 82259
    1990 140000 58192 81808
    1991 140000 59525 80475
    1992 140000 116198 23802
    1993 140000 147012 -7012
    1994 140000 123291 16709
    1995 140000 85336 54664
    1996 140000 117499 22501
    1997 140000 90607 49393
    1998 140000 77517 62483
    1999 140000 56678 83322
    2000 140000 106642 33358
    2001 140000 178702 -38702
    2002 140000 173814 -33814
    2003 140000 81727 58273
    2004 140000 155330 -15330
    2005 140000 246877 -106877
    2006 140000 159081 -19081
    2007 140000 162176 -22176
    2008 140000 166511 -26511

    Sum total of the differences from 1986 to 2008: 626,681. Vow!!!

    So when looked between the period of 1986 and 2008,
    there were a total of 626,681 un-used visa numbers that can be re-captured.

    This is based on the BIG assumption that the yearly quota for EB categories is 140,000 from 1986 to 2008.
    Does anybody know how to verify this important assumption online --a link to a gov website perhaps?

    It would be good to verify when the law specifying 140,000 visa numbers per year was passed and
    what were the criteria for visa number usage prior to the existence of the law.
    It is clearly a well prepared format and nobody has brought this kind of helpful information to our group. We would need people like you and I am sure I will also support this if we are aggressively pursuing it. But again as somebody here said in this discussion that we should be careful about the seriousness of the situation being counted by the lawmakers.
    Kudos to you.



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